Vacation Photoshoot Hiccups: When Charm Meets Unclear ExpectationsI hired a destination photographer while on vacation in Mexico. The booking process was super relaxed. I reached out, we agreed on a time/location, I paid a deposit, and that was basically it. No contract. Her work is absolutely drop dead gorgeous and she was able to get us in that same week, so a contract genuinely didn’t even cross my mind. She couldn’t have been sweeter in-person. She was great during the shoot.
We booked a mini family session listed as 45 minutes on her site, but we ended up stopping around the 30 minute mark (completely my choice) because my baby was melting down and had just spit up all over my dress.
I asked about turnaround time during the session itself, and she told me she was optimistic it would take about 3 weeks, and that 3 weeks was standard for minis. Well, 3 weeks came and went with no photos or communication. I reached out (I made sure to be kind and low pressure- just checking in) and then suddenly I was told that 5 weeks is actually standard for mini sessions and that I could now “expect the gallery by Mother’s Day.” In their response they also said they took “more photos during our session than usual” so it was taking longer to go through everything… but we had already booked a mini session and then cut it short by 15 minutes, so I genuinely don’t understand how there would be more photos than normal. At the same time, they were apologizing for how busy they’ve been lately. So which is it? Was the deadline missed because they’re overwhelmed, or was 5 weeks always the standard timeline? Either way, I’m the one that had to reach out to get this information. The message felt a little inconsistent. And now Mother’s Day has come and gone with still no gallery and zero communication.
I’m drafting a follow-up message now that it’s past the deadline she told me, but honestly, I’m just sad and venting. When she told me the photos would be ready by Mother’s Day, I pictured getting to look through sweet photos of my baby and maybe post a few that day. I just wish she communicated proactively. Clients are excited to see their photos. Since she provided Mother’s Day as the “delivered by” date, I spent all day refreshing my email inbox to see if the gallery arrived because I was excited. I am bummed. Thoughts?
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Digital Photos: Are They Really Worth the Extra Investment?My husband and I won a $200 photography gift card in a local charity contest- the gift card says it’s for a session and a single 5x7 print photo. I started to set things up with the photographer, and found out that unless we invest $600 with him, he will not give any digital copies. Make no mistake here- this is a small, 45 minute family photo session, I am not *ever* thinking I’m getting 30 digital retouched photos for that! I admit I *did* assume we’d get just 3 to 5 digital copies of our favorite photos, plus the single print, from all this. I asked him if even giving him $100 for 3 digital photos worked for him, and he said no, he says he wants people to have coffee table albums and framed photos and other prints. He sent me his price list which does indeed say you have to invest $600 with him before getting access to any digital photos.
I’ve had lots of family photos done in the past, and of course our wedding photos a few years ago, and I haven’t ever come across this before, even for the “mini shoots” of couples and pets. Yes it’s a free $200 photoshoot, however, it’s a fair bit of work to coordinate to get our kid and dog ready etc for a single 5x7 print, because we certainly don’t have $400 to throw at this right now.
I suppose I understand his take on it, but it feels a bit much for him to give out photoshoot gift cards to a charity for people to win, but they only get a single 5x7 print out of it.
Is this a new industry standard that I wasn’t aware of until now?
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Navigating Challenges: A Photographer's Reflection on a TFP ShootNot posting any photos here. I just need to share what happened yesterday, and I hope it's okay.
So I'm an amateur photographer, 5 years, mostly just non-professional/hobby stuff in my portfolio. I DM'ed this model and she agreed to do a TFP photoshoot at Location "A", summer outfit, natural portrait poses, nothing too complicated. Location "A" is an outdoor terraced park, lots of railings, good geometry for posing. I sent her an outfit board in advance, she said OK, we agreed to meet in Location A at 5:00 PM. Weather was going to be overcast but nothing crazy. I even did online location research beforehand and made a shotlist for each spot around the park.
I'm coming from another city so it's already a one-hour train ride just to get there. I always show up an hour early to scout , to check the light, walk the space, that kind of thing. So I just arrived at Location A's subway stop when the message comes in.
She said she can't wear the outfit. She can't do Location A either she says its too overcast, summer vibes feel wrong, she wants to wear a coat or something darker, like a sleeved black top, black leggings etc
Fine, wear whatever you want. But I'm already there, I was there since 4:00 PM*.* Location 'A' is literally 7 minutes by subway. She said going to location "A" would make her an hour late, so she asked if we do something nearer to central station?
So now I have to run back from Location A back to central station, scrambling for alternatives on my phone.
I suggest Location "B". She says no because she already shot there. I suggest Location "C", about 1 km from the central station. My message was unread for 30 minutes. I'm just standing there at the central not knowing whether to move or not. She finally confirms Location "C" at 4:50 PM I run to the subway going to this new location, I'm literally about to step on the train and she messages again: "Don't go, just meet me at central station."
It's 4:55 PM. I have zero prep for this new spot. We're already late. I grab a coffee and stand around waiting.
She shows up at 5:55 PM, one hour later
Okay whatever, we're here now, let's just shoot.
We start walking toward Location C and she suggests I try to grab some photos of her along the way. First spot I suggest she says "I don't like the background." Then there's this really nice art garden with a sculptural landmark, really cool textures and diffused light. She says "Too touristy. I don't want to look like a tourist in my photos".. That's when I knew.
Location C ended up being a riverside promenade between two bridges. Nothing like what I had in mind and I'm honestly not the best at improvising.. I work better with a plan, with a shotlist, scouting the area etc. But I pushed through, calling poses on the fly. I like working with limb gestures, angles, movement. Half of the time she stops me "I don't want my fingernails shown, the color isn't nice." In my mind I'm like lol there go the hand poses.
Half the time I'd call a pose and she'd just refuse it if she felt the angle wasn't flattering enough. She only wanted square-on, front-facing, straight neck. And every time I took a shot I'm not exaggerating when I say at least 10 times in that 1 hour shoot she'd reach over and grab my camera to check it herself. She'd ask me why are the poses all the same. In my head I'm like Lady why do you think??
I don't speak German fluently but I understand more than people realize. I started catching what she was murmuring. Stuff about how I didn't understand her vision. At some point she just took the camera, pointed at a spot and went: "I want this angle. Why are you taking s\** photos?"*
It got worse from there.
Last part of the shoot was a subway slow-shutter idea. Before the train came i went upclose, in portrait orientation, and she says it's better to shoot landscape, FULL BODY. At that point I just gave up. Train comes, I shoot full body landscape
She looks at the preview. "Why didn't you come closer? It looks like s***"
"Because you said full body."
We retake it. Close-up this time. Still trash apparently. She says all the photos are bad, she regrets agreeing to the TFP, everything's too dark, not aesthetic. I keep telling her I haven't touched them in post yet (I prefer to shoot one stop darker so I can play around in post better) but she's not hearing it.
I just said look, "I tried my best, thank you, sorry it didn't work out, I'll still send the photos over."
We went our separate ways. No response. Not even a word or nod. I know I'm not the best photographer and I've got tons to improve, and I'm working on it. Didn't expect to get hit with that kind of feedback though.
I walked back to central and just stood there for a bit. Felt like an idiot. Spent the whole day traveling, prepping, and that's how it ended. I felt like this is where TFP shooting is boxed in a big red line, there's little to no creative flexibility, especially when you get matched up with these "influencer" types. I mean I've shot many TFPs before but this is the first one in this particular country, and probably the worst experience anywhere. That's on me I guess. I should have invested more and spent for paid models.
Also worth noting that before this photoshoot, 2 other TFP models have ghosted me right on the day of shoot, WHEN I WAS AT THE LOCATION. Has anyone dealt with something like this? Not just a difficult shoot but someone who refuses poses, grabs your camera every two minutes, and straight up tells you mid-shoot that your work is garbage? How did you handle it? Sorry for venting out. Just thought I needed to get it off my chest.
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TLDR: Traveled an hour for a TFP shoot, model changed the location and outfit last minute (while I was already there), showed up an hour late, refused almost all the poses, grabbed my camera every few minutes to check shots, and told me mid-shoot my photos were sh*t. Ended with her saying she regrets the TFP and we parted ways without a word. Third bad TFP experience in a row, the other two ghosted me on the day, at the location. Probably switching to paid models after this.
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